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For me it's just disgust and dislike and avoidance at this point not exactly hate unless this narc keeps pushing it.

Also , I can waste unnecessary time hunting for that perfect word to use in conversation, when using simple words will suffice. It goes against my Ni pride to forgo the perfect delivery , but it's a tendency I have learned, must be sacrificed , at times

intjs are our friend they are extremely smart

Personally I think INTJs are really smart. I respect them for their astuteness. However, they don't give a shit about ethics and justice too much.

Wow! So honest. I am an infj and I went through a relationship with an i n t j and this happened. We used our Ni function for the magic. But like you said...I became co- dependent...misused my empathic nature , betrayed myself and my marriage dissolved.

I think women like INFJs because there is an emotional connection.

I'm an ENFJ and I love INTJs. You know what, I think INFJs kind of act like INTJs... like they can go back and forth.

INTJ male here surrounded by both male and female INFJs: Why are all of you on drugs? Also, your Ni Ti loops drive me nuts 😅 circular logic at it finest, puts mine to shame.

I typed an INTJ over a phone conversation. Ni dominance gives lots of common ground with us. Although Fi in 3rd, they still have it, plus Te with Ni gives excellent understanding of reality. I think their lacking Ti means they aren’t as interested at understanding the world in a theoretical basis like us. They tend to be highly pragmatic and keen to philosophise about the bigger overall picture of life and the world.

My bestie is an ENTJ. We've known each other for 22 years now and she's the person I can literally share everything with. Her Te grounds me and her Ni is very developed, so we love discussing things from a bunch of perspectives. She's very intuitive ❤

I can hate people of my type (INTJ), when they ignore Fi/Fe - and protective/defensive to them. I think they can hate each others, when both ignore their 3rd function, and impose their 2nd. And they hurt me a lot in this case. Or when 2 N dom misunderstand each other. I don't like when they are not open minded, don't listen, not receptive, don't react, don't share what they think and have in mind - when they stay in their Ni, keeping everything for themselves, very private. We show Fi only when we feel comfortable and safe, to not being hurt. INFJ when they ignore Ti/Te and Ne - And INTJ when they ignore Fi/Fe and Ne, communication is more difficult. I have the impression, I have more facility to communicate with INFJ males (surely cause naturally more T) and INTJ females (naturally more F) Or maybe it's just me, because I am NT type girl.

Also, will you do a video on how INFJs think? We get an incredibly bad rap... I understand that many immature INFJs will stay deeply rooted in that feeling and intuitive function in order to stay close to home and comfortable... But it is very easy for a mature infj to engage in the world almost identical to an intj... We can easily learn how to engage our thinking function and when we do we can rival any NT in logic, strategy, precision, analysis, etc.

Your descriptions of INTJs are very informed and nuanced, in contrast to the many caricatures you find on the web. Thanks!

Like how Elon Musk is actually an ENTJ? But he and everyone else claim he's an intj?

Is the istp guy you mentioned maybe Martin Glenn?

I have an ESFJ work mate. He's a nice fella but my god, I have to walk him through everything the boss has said, which I have worked out is his responsibility swerving tactic. He also doesn't come up for breathe in terms of talking to a point where he'll ask a question and talk over me. Quite gossipy as well and tries to get me involved into things that are not mine to worry about and says "we" after only him making the statement. I did start with "he's a nice fella" 😂 and he is but he can drain me rapidly if he's feeling vulnerable.

I kind of do both 😂 I'm an INFJ and I do often talk about how everybody is stupid. I used to tell people I didn't want to make friends at school "because they were all idiots". I didn't mean in the academic sense. I don't care about your exam results. That isn't what makes you valuable. I meant they're "idiots" because they're selfish, self-serving, egotistical, shallow, superficial, manipulative, greedy, closed-minded... because they fight, because they use other people for their own sick pleasures... To me, a person is "stupid" if they're a bad person. I don't care if you have a PhD and an IQ of 160, if you use your knowledge to create evil... To harm or suppress others, or have a negative impact on the world in any way - you are an idiot and you're wrong, and not worth my time.

I thrived in uni and other educational institutions. I loved the feeling of being in a campus setting. That why I also signed up for course on a part time basis while having a day job.

In my own experience, i always find myself in MAJOR power struggles with this type ! They can in my opinion, be overbearing, dictatorial, and bullying. At first glance we infjs --- especially the males among us --- are percieved as weak ! Our mild mannered, often fluid , watery demeanors , make us seem like prey to the more aggressive, extraverted types. ENTJs are no different. Their Te dominant inclinations can oftentimes lead them to making rash decisions about our characters, and capabilities. And their natural leadership capabilities, confidence , and high intelligence make them seem arrogant to other types who dont value Te, including INFJs. This type although formidable, is the least intimidating to me. I have no problem challenging them when they are wrong, or enforcing my own personal boundaries when needed --- which is often early , upon first meeting each other.

I can get on with anyone in small doses….famous last words I know

Looks like your car needs a wash 😂

ENTJ are highly pragmatic and selfish, INFJ are largely theoretical and kind. Sharing Ni in top 2 positions gives some common ground.

Also, when Jesse Daly and I get together and we do our weird little dance of the infj entj combination we end up talking about thorium salt reactors and really cool things like that or sortition democracy you know what I'm saying like strategy and s***...

That's funny because my brother and I used to wax philosophic all the time... We really knew how to talk... We did fight a lot he didn't like to give me credit for how intelligent I was... But when it came right down to it he had to concede to that point on the regular... Like whenever I kicked his ass at anything... Which was sadly quite often... It was a fun little back and forth game we played. Him denying my intelligence while me exhibiting it all the time dominating the s*** out of him... Jacob and I were quite the pair.

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I love your content. One of the few channels on mbti with real depth. Write a book on intjs and I'll buy it 😂. Also, you'd make a great existentialist psychotherapist.

I think the wiser you get, the more you naturally steer toward authenticity. At this point in my life, I don’t bother with much unless it has meaning to me, or it gives me new experiences/perspectives or allows me to help others. The desire to mold what you say or how you behave to others is always there, but I now can actively choose how much I want to follow that impulse or ignore it all together. I’ll never be outwardly rude, but I’ll simply walk away from those situations or people, quite literally. Sacrificing your authenticity for anything or anyone is too high a cost. I know my Fe understands, it might squirm a little because it thinks I’ve burned a bridge or made someone feel awkward or upset, but it understands. 🙃😂

There are many overlapping traits between INFJs and covert narcissism because of the introverted personality. Enough that I think many people who mistakingly diagnosed themselves as INFJs are actually covert narcissists. However, while the INFJs struggle with being authentic, covert narcissists have killed off their true core a long time ago and can't have authenticity at all.

Or an xnxx... 😘

Yess he was a INFJ !!!!

Ren, you said this so eloquently that I believe you have spoken of how we truly are, with our nuanced way of being and expressing ourselves. INFJ’s Ni is purely individual while being unfathomable to everyone except the rare one who themselves must likewise own this capacity and are capable of showing it through their own range of INFJ functions. The self reflection is ongoing for life, from my own 60+ years down here on earth. There’s a lot going on in the mind, it never gets boring! I know what authenticity means and am aware that I seek it before attempting any sort of friendship with anyone because my intuition is so highly developed I can read in short time how someone is behaving or projecting. I don’t need to try to be authentic by dint of being it. However,, as you said, Fe in us wants to communicate fluently and coherently with another in the right way, which means we are constantly evaluating what they are saying and how we are responding, and for me it also means mentally checking I said it alright so as not to offend nor give too much of myself at the same time. There’s a continual balancing act going on between what we intuit and what our other functions are informing us at any time. One thing I know for sure and that is who to steer clear from at all costs, and who is safe to be with. The latter are few indeed.

Thanks for these thoughts, Ren. It is interesting to think about Fe vs. Fi as being about the cognitive processing of feelings rather than as the emotional experiences themselves. I do think this must be an oversimplification, though, as it's clear that the emotional experiences of Fe users and Fi users are actually different. Fe users are much more likely to be empathetic in a very direct way, where their emotional experiences are wrapped up in those of others (even before any decision making process is consciously undertaken) whereas Fi users simply don't experience feelings this way, at least not to nearly the same degree. You could try to say that this is actually a distinction in cognitive processing, and not in the experience itself, but if that's true then the cognitive processing is so core to our programming and unconscious that it happens prior to what we recognize as the emotional experience itself and the distinction between the experience and the cognitive processing of it would seem meaningless in that case. It seems to me that we really are just experiencing things differently. They're the same human feelings but with a different level of openness to the external world.

I failed many times in physics, and other classes which I didn't have the ability to learn on my own. It was stressful and depressing many times. But if you are someone who can find a way to learn and get through the roadblocks, it's rewarding

Fish never think about being underwater?

Can you do a video on Socionics? I watched a video and it makes no sense to me.

Authenticity can be hard for INFJs in one respect; it might cause social disharmony and hurt Fe. Also, we are known as social chameleons. But when we need or want to be, we can be very authentic. Lack of subjectivity can also make authenticity an issue.

You can have extroverted feeling without acting upon it, that is when you're most authentic

I think the authenticity of Ti/Fe axis types is their Ti, just as it's the Fi for hte Fi/Te axis people. Both Te and Fe are more prone to say something for a certain result, which is typically perceived to be less authentic. Also, it should be noted that authenticity does not mean it'autoamtically a good thing. Someone can be inauthentic and do the 'right thing', like an Fe might be prone to do.. So the word authenticity is not a word I am that fond of because it gives a certain impression that does not have to be true (which is, that is it is good). However, if taknig the word somehwat at face value I would go even as far as to question if Fi is actually more 'authentic' than Ti, as individuals with Ti try to find the truth in themselves and around them_without any desire to alter themselves or the world_ whereas with Fi authenticity is much more complex as they can have a sort of imposed standards of _how they wish they would be as a person_ (their ideal) versus the _way they actually and would behave like naturally . So in my view this can quite often result in conflicting situations where they force themselves to do one thing, while their nature screams the opposite. If you look at Ti and Ti-doms types in general I think their authenticity is much more visible, as they just seem to behave like themselves and tend be quite honest without thinking about it too much. Sure, you will get a bit of surface level friendlyness (Fe) from them, but the Ti itself in my view is more authentic than because htere are _no conflicting forces_ at work, as Ti just wants to know what is without any desired outcome. If you analyse yourslef and think you have a bad trait or have more bad than good triats, then that truth is what Ti is after without the direct desire to change it. Fi _wants_ a desired outcome, yet at the same time wants to be their anthentic self. They can even confuse their ideal self for their true self, which simply makes it more conflicting

Love this take, Ren. Your Pi is powerful 💪🏻

How would you compare Ni's authenticity of INFJ compared to Ne of ENTP

Here a statement i have written regarding the video about fake INFJs , u didnt answer me so i hoped u will maybe if i comment on a more recent video , i am interested in ur opinion thanks. Pls answer me , so I have in the past told many wannabe INFJs that they r none, it's pretty damn obvious at times, I know it sounds probably confirming and suspicious out of ur perspective, still I would categorize me as highly emotionally intelligent, that's where a lot of suffering stems from , u know the deal. I am highly sensitive and traumatised, who would have thought, being sensitive and highly emotionally intelligent provokes being traumatised especially when u grow up seeing ur parents confronted with many adversities, probably because I am a thinker type 5w4 and yes I am obsessed with psychology and the truth, I need to be rational, I probably use me Ti heavily, also just let me be clear if u think that there aren't mostly fake INFJs think again, the most are. Also the kind of individuals u mentioned, fakes telling others that they r fake because they know they r none obviously exist, but INFJs who tell others that they most likely or definitely r not an INFJ exist definitely also. I have stopped doing that because I am tired and have lost interest in mbti groups because they often are pretty fake , not always intended, but still often, just be honest fellow INFJs, how delusional r people nowadays, how weak r they , r they probably embracing a fake identity to feel better about themselves, often probably people who have been bullied and similar and or r pretty insecure and so on. Ur it seems like r an INFJ, I hope nobody has told u that u r not a INFJ because u pretty likely r one, also u seem like the kind of person who is very cautious towards the feelings of others, may I ask if you are maybe often too sensitive/aware of the feelings of others that u can't tell them the truth or all of it, obviously ur trying to lift up people who got hurt by the second type u mentioned, I hope ur "Fe" don't hinders u of telling people the truth! Also I just wanted to mention that I just out of coriousity watched one of ur vids because I hoped to probably learn something. Also I do not tell people that they r not INFJs because I simply don't want no more, but honestly if I would come across someone obviously fake I would feel the urge to tell them that they r wannebes and I am convinced that other INFJs would confirm my claim. Again ur right but it's not like that's always the case when someone tells another person that they r not an INFJ, let's be real. You seem soft and yes I am also, that's probably what Fe does to someone, to keep it simple. Still the truth is more important and I need to operate with the truth to think the right way , to be able to move into the direction where my understanding everything increases, what isn't easy if i move through lies, otherwise it becomes unexpectedly easy if u r strong enough to move through the truth with open eyes.

I notice that when i use FE a bit more ill get my feelings hurt alot more as well because some ppl who are toxic try to be mean or take advantage of me, then when im exhausted, i go to TI and spin to a temporary NI-TI loop.

I think whatever bullseye you were trying to hit, you were way off. Appreciate the dedication, but your points aren’t connecting at all. What your saying is that we should be careful with conspiracy theories, but you fail to explain the actual connection between infjs and the metaphysical. The connection between the realms of magic and science.

OH MY GOD!

I agree! I’m a 45 year old INFJ in grad school for counseling. It’s the 1 place I feel like my natural strengths as an INFJ are appreciated. I’ve also met other intuitive’s, including 3 INFJ’s. 1 each in a psychology, counseling and music class.

100% agree! I was always a decent student, but my love of learning came alive during college! Getting to explore and write about all kinds of fascinating subject areas was so fulfilling!

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I agree it can be good if you choose the right course. The structure might feel restrictive but it also has the advantages of something to help support you. You are in the company of others with similar intellects and interests.

For me the experience was like you said “she was trying to micromanage me ” but she was an Estj mentor,,,nightmare of an experience,,, in general I clash with ” ST “ ppl 😅😅😅SFss or other intuitives like NT or other NFs waaaaay easier communication and understanding 😊

I think INFJs have a special logic which beats these 2 in at least some respects.